Arcanum or Dragon Age:Origins and why?

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IMHO DAO, it's the less aged of the two. To play Arcanum requires a certain mindset. It's janky, even modded, though with the fan patch it works very well. The GoG version is superior to Steam, as always, so you might not even need to mod it though I still advice you do. I love Arcanum, but I have only ever finished it once (last year actually) despite trying more than 5 times. It's a fantastic game at its core, but it's so different from games made today it takes more effort to play it if you don't have the nostalgia helping you. DAO is good straight from the box. Sure, it's old now but it works. The controls, although perhaps janky (I always struggle a bit with the camera when I reinstall it, heh), is still easier than Arcanum.

I'd say comparing the two is like choosing between Fallout 2 or Mass Effect 1. They aren't similar, they play differently, they will have very, very different experiences for you. Both are great in theiw own ways and shouldn't be compared, but based on your post I think you'll have a harder time getting into Arcanum than DAO hence why I recommend the latter over the former.
 

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I'd say comparing the two is like choosing between Fallout 2 or Mass Effect 1. They aren't similar, they play differently, they will have very, very different experiences for you. Both are great in theiw own ways and shouldn't be compared, but based on your post I think you'll have a harder time getting into Arcanum than DAO hence why I recommend the latter over the former.
But I've played Fallout 2 a million times and Mass Effect a fraction of one. Does that change things?
 

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I would say Arcanum solely on the basis that it is less of an investment. If you play DAO then you might be tempted to import your save into Dragon Age 2, Inquisition, and god forbid, you may even touch Veilguard. Arcanum is one and done.
 

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But I've played Fallout 2 a million times and Mass Effect a fraction of one. Does that change things?
IMHO, yes it does. It means you have a higher likelyhood of enjoying your time with Arcanum, which could push the balance over toward it :) It's more "free form" way of a game. You can solve things in many different ways á la FO1 and 2, whereas DAO of course have great branching narratives, quests and their resolutions are more strictly solved. In Arcanum you can kill a critical NPC, pull their dead spirit forth with your necromancy and get the answers you need from their corpse (BG3 added something similar, in their own way).

If you got some time to spend, check some more reviews on youtube before you choose maybe? For old games I like to watch MandaloreGaming or my personal favorite guy Warlocrazy:
His arcanum clip.
 

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I've never played Arcanum so I can't really give a proper comparison between the two, but I will say that DA:O is by far the BEST of the Dragon Age games in my opinion in terms of lore, character development, writing and world-building. It very much does feel like Bioware's spiritual successor to BG2. :)
 

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To play Arcanum requires a certain mindset. It's janky, even modded, though with the fan patch it works very well. The GoG version is superior to Steam, as always, so you might not even need to mod it though I still advice you do. I love Arcanum, but I have only ever finished it once (last year actually) despite trying more than 5 times. It's a fantastic game at its core, but it's so different from games made today it takes more effort to play it if you don't have the nostalgia helping you. DAO is good straight from the box. Sure, it's old now but it works. The controls, although perhaps janky (I always struggle a bit with the camera when I reinstall it, heh), is still easier than Arcanum.
As I've already said, Arcanum is objectively better than DAO (Dragon Age: Origins). It just is. There's no argument to be had. But if you (anyone) wants an argument, here goes:

1) If game "A" takes more time to install than game "B", or if you need to figure it out (i.e., you have to use an Emulator to make it run), then the game "A" is objectively better than the game "B".
2) Arcanum takes more time to install than DAO, because you need to figure out several things, even with the GoG version (Which, BTW, is not the "superior" version. It's the objectively better version. And that, just proves my point even further.)
3) Therefore, Arcanum is objectively better than DAO.

This is a valid argument. It's a modus ponens. If you wish to deny the conclusion, then you must necessarily deny one of the premises. Option One is to deny the first premise. Option 2 is to deny the second premise. Both premises cannot be false, if one of them is false, then the other one is necessarily true. In case of doubt, consult the truth table for conditional statements:


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I think you'll have a harder time getting into Arcanum than DAO hence why I recommend the latter over the former.
This is the exact reason why I advise the opposite. If Arcanum is harder to get into, then it's better for him than DAO.
 

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Since I've heard the story is so good, I'm leaning towards a diplomatic build with perception, intelligence, and charisma. I want to play with the tech instead of magic (and @m7600 recommended this), so gunslinger (with probably throwing as a backup). I haven't worked out more than that, though.
There are so many interesting ways to make a tech character. Throwing is a good choice.

But there are also so many cool magic spells, I end up going magic every single time. One day I will make a Dwarven electric and smithing master like I keep telling myself.
 

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and @m7600 recommended this),
Yeah well, you shouldn't take my word for it. In fact, you shouldn't take my word for anything. I'm not the president of your country, I'm not the Pope, I'm not Stephen Hawking, etc. So, yeah, my word carries no authority, you could say it like that. So, don't believe me.
 
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WarChiefZeke

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I will say that Dragon Age is really special in that you can get lost in the lore for ages, it is so dense. Especially if you are discovering everything for yourself via gameplay and not just reading it all online. Everytime you think you have a thorough understanding, a new layer reveals itself. I just learned a big fact about one of the main characters I never knew despite three playthroughs of each game, reading codex entries, trying to follow along...

And in hindsight, there was a big hint that something was "off", I just totally missed it.
 
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